¶    Van model

Model:
    VW LT28, 1984, 2.4D
    White + Rusty
    2000€

Model details (for parts):
    VW LT 28-35 I BOX (281-363)
    VOLKSWAGEN LT 28-50 D (281-363) 2.4 BOX D DIESEL RWD 1979 - 1992

¶    License plate

9083BVX

¶    (The Metal plaque)

Type Approval No.: ABE Nr 9728/1
Fahrzeug Identifizierung / VIN: WV2ZZZ28ZEH016996
    (FRA sometimes "chassis number")
Gross Vehicle Weight: 2800 kg
Gross Comb Weight: 4800 kg
Perm Axle Weight Front: 1- 1500 kg
Perm Axle Weight Rear: 2- 1680 kg
Type 281

Upwards number on side: 1547835 (probably serial no)


"Allocation number": 28
(→When was what built)
https://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=de&sp=nmt4&tl=en&u=http://www.lt-forum.de/dokuwiki/doku.php%3Fid%3Dstart:wichtige_daten:prod_zuordnungen&xid=17259,15700019,15700124,15700149,15700186,15700191,15700201,15700214,15700226,15700230&usg=ALkJrhj3v_-54G-O9tp--K9YkmaB0pXdGQ
"vehicle model"


"Chassis" is one of these, but basically 28-E-something. 
1984
month         Chassis NR
01.08.1983         28-E-000001
31.08.1983         28-E-003589
30.09.1983         28-E-005790
10/31/1983         28-E-007187
30.11.1983         28-E-008603
31/12/1983         28-E-010101
31.01.1984         28-E-012604
28.02.1984         28-E-014645
03/31/1984         28-E-016448
30.04.1984         28-E-018229
31.05.1984         28-E-020084
06/30/1984         28-E-021779
07/31/1984         28-E-025000




    Photo gallery
Random photos - reload page !
[ pics:trucko]
[!!**] bring back

¶    Basic situation & state of the van


Vanguard <> Van-Life

Good:
    * is on the island. (any van from outside would have huge imports, >2000€)
    * diesel engine "in good condition", we believe
    * free from municipal / "circulation" tax (-50€/year)
    * passed the last ITV it took ... in july 2015
    * ITV only every 1 year, unlike other old cars (2x) - because it's not a typical "personal" vehicle
    * RUST IS NOT A PROBLEM FOR ITV IN CANARIAS
    * [...]

Bad:
    * very rusty shell
    * rusty undercarriage ??
    * some urgent things to fix
    * many details to fix
    * [...]

¶    Problems
    

¶    LT Outstanding Resources (Web + Paper)

https://carmanualshub.com/volkswagen-lt-pdf-workshop-and-repair-manuals/
REPAIR MANUALS

http://www.lt-forum.de/dokuwiki
GERMAN COMMUNITY WIKI

___________

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_LT#1st_generation_LT_.28Typ_28.2FTyp_21.29
Wiki article :)

http://vwlt.co.uk/about-the-vw-lt/other-conversions/
Loads of great pictures!!!

http://coyote.marlow.dk/~marlow/lt40/brochure_1985_vw_lt_4x4.html
Original VW Brochure for 1985 4x4

http://vwlt.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/
Huge storage of materials

http://vwlt.co.uk/wiki/484-2/vw-lt-mk-1-buyers-guide/
"Buyers guide" with lots to know of what can go wrong with specific parts

¶    LT Community and Info

Forums - using:
    * http://www.facebook.com/groups/voltowners/
    * http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/lt-crafter-sprinter-section_forums_cat13.html ("LT1 chat")

Forums - tocheckout:
    * http://vwlt.co.uk/
    * http://www.lt1-forum.de/ or http://www.lt-forum.de/ (looks same)
    * http://www.lt-freunde.de/forum/
    * http://www.facebook.com/groups/vwroute67/
    * http://apascual.free.fr/Accueil.html
    * http://www.furgovw.org/index.php
    * http://www.reddit.com/r/vandwellers/
    * [...]

In-Person Meetups:
    * VOLT @ UK (yearly)
    * German (yearly)
    * [...]


-------------------------

Repair Stories:
    * http://vwlt.co.uk/2016/06/16/simon-evans-lt-self-build-story/ :
        * "There was no budget I tried to look at it as a college course and learn on the job even though it was like night school working on it every day off and night at Emos unit for around 3 years. I would hate to think the amount of cash that has gone in to it – it’s got to be around the 8 to 10k mark by the time is done and on the road. And that’s not counting my time. Welding and engineering £4k, paint £2k, glass £700 plus fitting and re fitting due to a forgetful error."
    * http://vwlt.co.uk/2015/12/21/a-real-a-lt-ernative/ :
        people love their LTs and they're getting trendy
    * http://vwlt.co.uk/2016/10/31/andras-felegyhazy-and-his-4x4-extra-high-top-conversion/ :
        great conversion with specs
    * [...]


Buying Tips:
    * http://www.ukhippy.com/stuff/archive/index.php/t-39156.html "buying a VW LT, any advice?"
    * "Take a magnet with you, if it does not stick, there is no steel."
    * different differentials?:
        "Not much to say, except they are not all the same. There are fast and slow ones, 3.79:1 to 6.43:1"
    * electronics:
        * "The printed circuit on the back of the instrument cluster is prone to burning out where it goes around corners and the connector that connects it to the loom often corrodes and causes trouble it is not a risk you want to take"
    * quality:
        * "The LT is an extremely well built vehicle which was available in several different engine types. They were known for having problems with gear changes and have their share of common problems like all motor vehicles"
    * [...]


http://www.breakeryard.com/volkswagen-car-parts/lt/common-problems-with-volkswagen-lt
(but this is for newer, post 1996 LTs)


----------------------------

http://vagcat.com
just did login ... credentials? #TODO

http://www3.telus.net/~braddatz/van/links.htm
(links, schematics, etc.)

Some nice pics:
    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Volkswagen_LT_28.jpg
    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Volkswagen_LT_Mk_1.jpg
    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:VW_LT_35e_1989_1._Generation_Facelift_Wohnmobil_Hochdach.jpg

¶    Becoming a trendy vehicle

* raise in registrations:
    "Howmanyleft.com says that 2014 has seen approximately a 10% increase of registered LT Mk1’s in the UK, after a steady 10+ year decline."

* price of old ones bigger than new ones:
    "for this reason i put that there ... to investigate why 2000 year are same price (or lower) than 1980-1985s"

* it's bigger than Transporters

¶    BUY AND SHIP THE PARTS !!!!!!

<------------------------------------------------------- (now)(new)

moved to 🔗trucko-new
20181026


(2016-09-28 OPEN QUESTIONS):

JUST DO IT!

Open problems:

¶    People we need to help

definitely:
    * +DAVID.MALA.VAN !!!
    * +dario , cousin of luis @truco
    ----------------------------------------------------
    * dušan knows a metalworker in Teguise?
    * +anne.maguez knows good jeeps
    * +schaumi wants to help + use it
    * cousin (?) of antonio (neighbour) said he will help us with rust
    * +mogu? she should know about metal / cutting :D
    * [...] !!!

remote:
    * mark pozlep (slo)
    * lux (slo)
    * [...]

¶    Visit official Lanzarote VW mechanic + parts

It's near ("go left just before") Ikea in Arrecife.

!!!!!!

Agenda:
    * availability of parts
    * [...]

¶    Find a Mechanic in Lanzarote

:
    * we need a "cool", no bs, dedicated friendly mechanic
    * price: ???
    * [...]

candidates?:
    * dario mechanic
    * karoline's brother
    * Dushan's ITV husband guy, maybe Tias
    * ~cassavetes "next to Renault" (via small VW shop in Argana)
    * [...]

¶    Check for Lanzarote source of parts

Best to just order in! Dushan did this!

Check scrapyards ("DESGUACES"), where they destroy & take apart cars.
One next to Ikea.

Agenda !!!!!!:
    * any LT/VW van parts?
    * mirror
    * seat
    * [...]

¶    STATUS AS OF 2017-11
:
    * tried driving the van
    * repaired the battery by adding some liquid to it, and running deep recharge program! +dushan
    * checked oil. added water. pumped the engine.
    * it started great. a bIt of lighter fumes for first 30s
    * hard break + breaks failed. break fluid started leaking

then, no other option:
    * did a grua (tow) to volcano land
    * cleaned up the insides. threw some textiles out, made the top compartment for textile. best order so far.

also remembering:
    * i think one of the signals (left/right indicator) does not work!
    * I found the inside of the bottom part of the door wet:
        CHANGE ALL INSULATION RUBBER ON DOORS
    * found mice were chewing paper in the left side comparmtent...:
        SEAL ALL HOLES!
    * [...]

¶    Starting after a long break
:
    * check oils
    * check water
    * check filters
    * pump the air
    * [...]

!!!!!! verify this

¶    Driving Trucko: Basics

Read "Basic Maintenance" part of the document!

Pedal positions:
    <------- #TODO write it down! :D

Main door key:
    * to unlock and drive use the newest looking key
    * the "bulge" is looking out - towards the end of the vehicle

Side door + back door:
    do not currently work !!!
    you can open the back door from the inside.

Starting:
    * use same key as driver door
    * turn car electronics on, wait 5 seconds, then start engine!

Gears:
    * gear #1 is only for very sharp climbs. use #2 for starting (like you would normally #1)
    * other ones as normal:
        (we tried 1-3 + reverse)
    * "reverse DOWN one UPRIGHT two DOWN three [...]"

BE CAREFUL:
    * accelerator pedal:
        It might fall apart. It's fairly easy to fix. Do not kick it from the sides.
    * the doors:
        especially in wind! they might blow out
    * see basic maintenance below!
    * [...]


---------------------

Also #Todo:
    * check other gears (4, 5) at proper speed
    * check all electric switches, etc
    * ask +dushan for idiosyncrasies (non-standard stuff) again when car is running
    * [...]

¶    More detailed model information

__________ for parts

So:
    VW LT 28-35 I BOX (281-363)
    VOLKSWAGEN LT 28-50 D (281-363) 2.4 BOX D DIESEL RWD 1979 - 1992
    (not BUS or PLATFORM)
    _________________________________
    Wheelbase: 2500
    55KW / 75 HP

Engine code:
    I am pretty sure it's DW.
        via http://alvadi.ee/en/carparts/volkswagen/lt28-31-35-1975/door/
        (options: CP, DW or DV)


__________ from car documents

vw-281
2700kg
1950kg

2.4D

altura 2561mm
anchura 2040
1750/1720 via anterior
longitud 4855
voladizo posterior 1245mm
2500mm distance <---- (this is probably WHEELBASE)
6 cilindrov / 2383
17,40 CVF / 55KW
tires: 185R14C(8PR)

SITTING PLACES: 002 <------------------------- #todo ???


__________ random

mark:
    * search: "VW, LT28 1975-96,28,31,35,45,50"

so:
    * dimensions ??? height ???
    * Diesel tank size ???
    * <--- metal plate
    * [...]

¶    Insurance <---------- #TODO

prices, general:
    * for one month?
    * for one year?

which one:
    * what did +Dushan use ???

what does/could insurance cover:
    * different drivers:
        renting car out to "friends"? <---------- ???
        [...]
    * breakdown / towing?
    * broken parts?
    * theft / sabotage?
    * [...]

<jose
"there is a car insurance by the government for poor people"
???

¶    Basic maintenance !!!!!!

<dushan
"remember two things: OIL and COOLING WATER!"

oil:
    * was changed ??????? +dushan
    * "change ~6 months" ??

cooling water:
    * was changed "months ago"
    * we bought the 10% one ~4€
    * the 30% would be better
    * can we freely mix these together? (seems: YES)

¶    The instruction video with +dushan:

This video was made when we took the car from previous owner.

VIDEO0326:
    0:20 enter
    0:30 keys explanations

    0:50 starting the engine:
        * with keys "high on the top"
        * count to 5 to warm up the engine

    1:20 gears:
        1:30 first own is very short (LEFT+LOW)
        5 gears
    2:00 put in cooling water:
        spent 4€ for "RADIATOR WATER" (green)

    2:40 enter from back:
        * "trick is to open from inside"

    2:50 checking oil
    3:00 opening the engine:
        in 2 movements
    3:30 engine is open, opening "engine coolant" tank:
        we need 2 litres !!
    4:10 opening oil:
        at moment is half full
        checking oil with reading indicators (via cleaning by paper)
        "has to be inside these two points"

    5:00 if the van stays still for a long time:
        "you cannot start the engine"
        you pump the diesel manually
        "now it's hard, because it's full of pressure"

    5:50 d: "i was thinking about cleaning the engine":
        "yes, you can do it"
        d: "i want to convince people car is nice"
    6:10 new gas bottle:
        installing it
    6:40 gas valves:
        it's the middle one put horizontal to turn on
        the other ones are "cut" and "for the fridge in the past"
    7:30 making the bed:
        need an extra piece of wood for the end
    7:50 some things were left, "you can have it"
    8:30 important: be careful with door when it's windy (so they don't fly out)

    8:40 THE PEDAL / PUSH ROD DISASTER:
        also see : http://nemiga.com/cat_spares/etka/volkswagen/lt/6/073100/
        (microphone goes a bit shit)
        ____________________________________________
        9:15 solution maybe visible:
            position options:
                on top: round OR triangle
                pointing: left OR right
            he holds it as:
                round + right ?
            think original is the same! (tested - yes!)
        ____________________________________________
        ADVANCED PEDAL USE - PROBLEMS:
            * it can get stuck so you can't push it down:
                * kick it a bit right!
                * it will fall back in
            * Seems sometimes it gets stuck a little pressed ?!?!!? <------ #CRITICAL >dushan (listen again + ask)
            * it makes a bizzare noize
            * [...]
        ____________________________________________
        9:20 "supposedly works" but don't see trying
    10:00 the money + "enjoy your van"
    10:30 suggestion about the keys! <------------- #TODO:
        10:40 black one is also for the engine
        (antonio comes, clip ends)

¶    CAR FIXING DOCUMENTATION

objectives:
    * "understand every screw !!!"
    * [...]

links:
    * [files:trucko .pdf] <------------- #e2h #todo
    * [...]

¶    Interchangeable / similar parts in other cars

like:
    * "Doors are interchangeable between years. Window wipers are shared with T3s and so are easily found and replaced"
    * "Some sliding door parts are shared with the Bays and T3s which are therefore more easily available"
    * "use exhaust from Polo"
    * engine shared with Volvos !
    * "Transporters and LT share some parts"
    * [...]

¶    Shops

known:
    * argana main avenue: basic car stuff shop
    * argana "hidden warehouse shop" (+tina)

new:
    * argana "car paint" shop (never was there yet)
    * desguaces lanzarote:
        http://www.paginasamarillas.es/desguaces-de-coches/all-ma/las-palmas/all-is/lanzarote/all-ba/all-pu/all-nc/1
    * [...] !!!!!!

find specifically:
    * foundation paint ??
    * car seats
    * [...]

¶    CAR STATE

so:
    * the state of rust damage is worrying
    * feeling ups and down looking at this car:
        * GOOD: insides are great and huge, rare cars have this (for the price: ?)
        * BAD: mechanically it should be OK, but looks like it has problems (visible and hidden)
        * BAD/NEUTRAL: the rust looks bad, but is doable??? unsure sometimes
    * [...]

UNKNOWN UNKNOWNS:
    * drive this car and figure out what the situation is <-------- #NEXT
    * [...]

¶    Different materials used in repairs so far

#todo
talk +dushan more!
"""
        * explain the time of the repairs on the outside [to get idea of trends]:
            * when did you do the fibra?
            * when did you do the front wood?
            * when did you do the white spray paint (???) coating
"""

used:
    * spray foam (yellow)
    * fibra de vidrio / fiberglass cement
    * sheet metal + "stapler" gun ???:
        >dushan can you say which tool you have?
    * wood panels
    * wood !? (front fake panel fail)
    * [...]

¶    Filters

Check state regularly !!!:
    * air
    * fuel
    * oil

¶    Belts / Pulleys
    * which ones are there?
    * how do failures look like?
    * current situation?
    * order spares?

¶    Fluids / Chemistry

via:
    * http://totalnewswire.com/keep-your-car-in-shape-this-spring-by-maintaining-these-7-fluids/
    * [...]

#tolearn

For car:
    * oil
    * radiator F / "coolant" / "antifreeze"
    * brake F
    * diesel additions
    * "gear oil" / "transmission fluid"
    * hydraulic F
    * washer fluid (for windshield)
    * [...]


Special sprays:
    * chrome
    * zinc
    * [...]

¶    What are these car parts? <------ #TODO

    * gasket ("tesnilo"):
        "engine gasket"
        "head gasket"

    * bearings:
        * ball bearing

    * alternador (works?)

    * [...]

¶    HOW TO DERUST / DERUSTING

meta:
    * who to talk to? +???
    * what's really urgent right now?
    * how to follow rusting trends?

open questions:
    * if you see rust under paint - remove the whole piece?
    * if screwdriver goes through - what to do there - keep poking through?
    * how is ITV with rust?:
        * what is too much?
        * what kind of "holes" are permitted?
    * [...]


------------------------------

resources:
    * http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqrust.htm !!!!
    * http://www.thebugshop.org/bsfqn4_1.htm !!! ("restore to perfection")
    * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYOhCBZH4g (different primers explanation)
    * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6sXv2uX9wg (via 33c3, "Patching extensive unibody frame rust" !!!)
    -------------------------- maybe / tocheckout
    * http://www.rust.co.uk/car-restoration-start-here/c32739/#
    * [...]

<antonio:
    * use "Dinitrol" to remove rust
    * If big problem, cut + weld + polish + fibre cement? + paint

hacky:
    * "cover with good spray paint. It will hold up exposed uncovered for a year or so but eventually break down and allow rust to start again."

cleaning the undercarriage:
    * clean with solvent !!!
    * "Black Asphalt Fibered Roof Tar": For the tar I use an ordinary 2" nylon paint brush

so:
    * remove a bunch of rusty metal if needed:
        * with cutting / punching out
    * radial OR hand grate to metal
    * "Make sure you have exposed all of the rust. Rust "bubbling" under paint usually extends farther than you can see, so brush away."
    * use chemicals:
        * like DINITROL
        * like "Eastwood's Corroless. -- I swear by it now and use it anywhere"
        * "It will usually dry, turning form white to black in about a half hour. You can accelerate this process (which will be slower if it is cold) by warming it with a heat gun"
    * clean the surface (solvent):
        "Before you do anything the surface must be clean and free from any salts, grease and dirt contamination."
    * primer
    * paint

filling gaps:
    * polish (rotary / hand)
    * use "glaze putty" / "epoxy mastic" (?) / "fibra de vidrio" / "masilla" / "body filler"
    * polish + vidrio again a few times
    * primer / foundation paint (can be a hand spray, but not optimal):
        "Bare metal must have epoxy primer, self etching primer, or DTM Direct to metal primer. Primer surfacer should not be applied directly to bare metal."
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNYOhCBZH4g
    * paint

manufacture + weld:
    * cut + bend pieces OR buy prefab pieces (~40€ per piece)
    * weld pieces

----------------

Q: is "primer" same as "foundation paint" ?

¶    HOW TO WELD

"At least the metal is thick enough to weld to if all else fails."
(via http://www.brick-yard.co.uk/forum/t3-or-t4-camper-i-need-help-deciding_topic29839.html )

reading:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welding

different types:
    * arc
    * MIG
    * plasma?
    * TIG:
        <dario !
    * CO2 ?
    * spot welding:
        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spot_welding
        Typically the sheets are in the 0.5 to 3 mm (0.020 to 0.118 in) thickness range
    * [...]

alternatives:
    * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brazing
    * riveting
    * [...]

Material:
    * How thick must the metal be?:
        (dushan has some suggestions / ideas ... on paper)
    * [...]

¶    TRUCKO AMPHIBIOUS - the car-boat version :D

If it looks like a boat... and sounds like a boat... ;-)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oeHhavRapY
(Hehe, German boat campers)

¶    Trucko interior modules <--------- #modular #architecture

Specs:
    * Measure the size!
    * a few cm room for gyro self-righting? <------------ #Idea like +tito in "galeb" his boat :D
    * [...]

Alternative:
    just get the PLATFORM/CHASSIS model
    and put stuff on top of that!

¶    upgrades - fridge

ask +tila for gas fridge ???

¶    upgrades - battery system

what is most suitable?
what are the criteria to decide?

ideas:
    * should be moveable from car
    * should easily charge:
        * on external 220V
        * internal solar
        * e-car plugs :D
    * [...]

¶    upgrades - autonomous computer system

#tomerge
...

¶    upgrades - solar

solar could power "always on" module:
    * easiest would be to keep a phone alive
    * if it fails have "local guardian" respond !

put it:
    * on the roof
    * how to fix it there? <----------- #TODO

[...]

¶    upgrades - water tank
nestor had one, but threw it out
"didn't need it" ??

¶    Running on used cooking oil

so:
    * find places to collect
    * find ways to clean
    * monitor quality and engine status somehow
also #tomerge

¶    Buying in Lanzarote

    * http://www.facebook.com/groups/cars.lanzarote/ (Cars!)
    * Segunda Mano
    * www.milanuncios.com

¶    CHT: Initial buying project

Cost:
    * 800€ budget + 200€ (for documents)

Features / Attributes:
    * size:
        larger is better!
    * efficience:
        does not need to be very efficient - we will not move too much around "on a daily basis"
    * off-road:
        "remember there are still many dirt tracks on the island, so ground clearance is useful"
    * rust - bad or good?:
        how fast does it destroy the car?
    * ???

Search views:
    * http://www.milanuncios.com/coches-de-segunda-mano/lanzarote.htm?hasta=1000&demanda=n
    * http://www.milanuncios.com/coches-de-segunda-mano/arrecife.htm?hasta=1000&demanda=n
    * [...]

¶    Car having expenses

To change:
    * ~50€ for mechanics checks
    * ~150€ for change documents 

Regular car-having expenses:
    * ITV ~50€ (every year, or 6 months for older cars)
    * insurance ~200€ (for car  "5 person", depends on the year)
    * "impuesto municipal" (municipality tax) ~50€ / year

Need to change stuff "around here in Lanzarote":
    * oil ("aceite") ~30k km ?
    * tyres ("pneumatico") ~30k km ?
    * [...]

¶    Procedure of actually buying the car

So:
    * find offer
    * check it, like it
    * have a competent friend look at it
    * bring cash, sign impromptu paper
    * make real sign-over <-------- #toresearch

(We kind of didn't do it like this.)

¶    How to buy + Vocabulary

How to buy a used car on Lanza:
    http://www.lanzaroteinformation.com/content/buying-car-lanzarote

Spanish words:
    * motor / "coches" = car
    * motor / "furgonetas" = "autocaravano" or "wohnwagen" or "living trailer"
    * "averiados" = damaged
    * "todoterreno" = jeep?
    * "remolque" = trailer (you snap on the end of the car):
        +chrono wants this for Apolllo
    * [...]

¶    CHT: FAQ for "buying a car"

Why buy a car?:
    * we were spending 100€/week many times on a car
    * this just doesn't make sense anymore
    * we can also modify/hack the car, learn about it
    * we can store shit in the car

Is it worth the money for buying, tax, insurance, repairs and the hassle of upkeeep etc?
Especially if compared to renting through http://www.billiger-mietwagen.de/ or other cheap brokers?
Yes, see "Why buy a car."
Especially no brainer if there is to be a base that operates in a stable way.
The whole focus of http://totalism.org/season4 is investment, not renting.

How much haggle space is there when buying cars? How does this work?
???

Is it possible to negotiate a warranty with owner, and how [so it doesn't break in 2 weeks]? Is there any protection by law?
I think +alfredo spoke about this being made illegal, so the car needs to be sold as working etc. So you always have some protection. (?)

CHT: Should we go through the ITV now, even though there are a few months left?
This might be a good idea.
The owner must guarantee this is possible.

CHT: Do we know someone on Lanza that knows stuff about cars?
Not really.

What are the requirements for owning a car on Lanza? Insurance? Tax?
How much does all the insurance, tax etc stuff cost?
(above)

Who can drive the car?
Seems like anyone.
In case of accident they're covered. <--- ??? unsure

What's the deal with insurance [in case of accident]? Is it for the car or the person?
"""
2PADS/cht4c2-1.txt-    * insurance ~200€ (for car + person)j
"""

Who can buy it? Who to write it on officially?
???

Do they need a driving license to own it? [otherwise it's David that can own the car]
???

Is there an incentive to have an association own the car?
???

Can it be moved to the association easily later?
Probably the stamp fee and the other taxes to transfer a car have to be paid again.

Is it different (less complicated) for a local / a formal resident, or same for foreign person?
??? Maybe
It seems to be impossible to own a car in Spain if you are not a spanish resident.

Does the person need to be present here to do certain things?
Both seller and buyer have to go to the Registro de Propiedad on the Rambla Medular in Arrecife with photo id (to do the transfer).
For other things:
    ???
Check:
    ITV, insurance, ...

We buy a car and it breaks down completely. What are the costs?
Tow it away = 100€
Inspect it = 50€
Destroy it = ???

Should we invest +400€ to buy a jeep?
Maybe ???

Cars that can be fixed more easy / more modern cars?
When did this happen, around 2000? How to know this?
Different for different models.
Is this really good to have for us?
This impacts price / serviceability?

¶    "How to change owner?" !!

FACTURA DE TRAFFICO
EN TRAFFICO
Do it "sin agencia !!", otherwise it will be expensive.

* "transferencia":
    "If you buy from a dealer, the “transferencia” will be taken care of normally as part of the price – that’s changing the registration into your name. But if buying privately, you and the seller will have to do that job yourself."

via:
    * http://www.lanzaroteinformation.com/content/buying-car-lanzarote
    * http://www.lanzaroteinformation.com/content/car-options-people-living-lanzarote

PROCESS:
    * "Both buyer and seller should then visit Registro de Propiedad on the Rambla Medular in Arrecife, with their photo identification documents and Certificados de Residencia, as well as the car documents – the ficha tecnica and the permiso de circulacion."
    * "Tell the staff it’s a vehicle change, and they will give you a copy of a sales contract (Contracto de compraventa), and a copy of the form they need to calculate the sales tax."
    * "So for a €6000 car, you will have to pay €240 transfer tax. The buyer normally pays this, but it can be negotiated or even split. "
    * "Next you need to go to Jefatura local de Trafico (known as trafico), who are on Carretera Los Marmoles, opposite the petrol station, in Arrecife. "
    * ..."Once you get there, join the queue at the payment window on your left, and tell them you want to transfer a vehicle. They will take the money for a transfer (€50) and issue a receipt. Now you can take a number for the main windows."

EXPENSES:
    * SALES TAX = 4% of sale price ... so for 1000€ = 40€ ("can be split with owner")
    * TRANSFER = 50€

WE NEED:
    * certification of residence (green paper)
    * [...]

¶    * sleeping / liveable van

so:
    * bed is pretty cool

todo:
    * need the wooden part, easy to fix
    * running water would be nice

Bring in:
    * dishes + dish system (pink bucket)
    * bed stuff
    * [...]

#tobuy:
    * simple LED lights / color LED strip ?
    * utility battery / #hyperbattery system
    * [...]

¶    * computing in trucko + TABLE

it was really good when we had that table!:
    * 3-4 people easy!
    * where did it go?:
        * the metal foundation was thrown away
        * the wood? was it same as the bed? #tocheckout !! >dushan
#TODO !!!

¶    * transport + mobile lab

Has own subset of tools.

Can support CHT misions on its outside:
    * extendable tent
    * external lights
    * sensors
    * [...]

¶    * inter-island travel

Prices:
    * ~25€ to Fuerta ???
    * ~50€ to Tenerife

#tomerge !
(have this in frags talking with +dushan)

¶    * downtown storage for CHT

For this, we still need a stable place to park it during downtime!

Options:
    * We could perhaps get some agreement with Cabildo ??? +oscar
    * +antonio knows the guy who offers camper storage in Argana
    * [...]

¶    * renting out for ~50-100€/week

people could easily stay there (during downtime)
i move it per request OR they move it

¶    Logging hours of work

    (pre):
        * 2 x 2h checking it at dushan
        * 5h research + deciding
        * 2 x 3h buying it
     (2016-07-05):
        * CAR DELIVERED!
        * 2h post-buy hang +dushan and video
        * 2 x 1h post-buy big checkup +matic
        * 2 x 2/3 post-buy checkup with antonio
        * 1h writing this outline
    (06):
        * 2 x 1h car check + outline work
    (07):
        * 4h night research
    (then):
        * 1h research
        * 1h field research (2nd hand tools)
        * 2h car cleanup
    (14/15):
        * 1h research + documentation re-edit
    (18...):
        * staying at car
        * bringing some things in
    (20):
        * exploring + writing first post to VW VOLT FB group ~1.5h
        * derusting + pondering 0.5h
        * reorg 0.5h
        * video transcription + pedal fix detal 0.5h
        == 3h
    ------------------------------------
    * 5h before leave at least (DERUSTING)
    * 2h merging docs @ 20160928
    ---------------
    * 0.5h touch @ 20161206

2018-07:
    ~2h work on document

¶    CAR LOG

~07/05:
    * we did cooking for the first time
    * cleaned up storage a bit
    * ran it for a few seconds. accelerator pedal seems in place
    * car had a bit of a smell, "but that's normal"
    * +Dario saw car:
        * was very positive
        * "you should get it fixed by someone who fixes boats"
    * [...]

¶    (This document as #e2h #case)

General:
    #brilliant #mima.ui #case +matic

Status:
    * (~august) it's becoming too big ~500 lines
    * right now 700 is very difficult to manage, even with TOC
    * (2016-09) now at 1700 lines:
        * spent some time doing overview
        * wrote "WHILE REORDERING TRUCKO PAD" #mima.ui file
    * (2016-12) 1700 lines, structure/TOC is OK, but stuff is intertwingled:
        "also see" + autocompleted internal anchors would be good

what would help:
    * TOC/navigation always present in edit mode !
    * move fragments to categories (inside hierarchy)
    * search fragments
    * [...]

¶    some more questions w dushan
:
    * which insurance exactly you had?
    * why is the ID metal plate in front so nice?
    * who is the metal welder in Teguise ("artist") you wanted to recommend?
    * is it possible the "golden tag" of car is not original?
    * [...]

¶    making a driver license (in Spain, in Slovenia, ???)

Spain:
    * now it's more difficult in Spain than it was
    * cumbia attempted driving exam 3x !!!
    * ... prepared for theory one week (only solved example tests)
    * [...]

Slovenia:
    * costs ???

Where is the best?
Something for 🔗place2legal.

¶    legality of modifications

so:
    * what is possible officially and how:
    * sanity check: solar panel on roof?
    * how to do "homologation" on bigger modifications, and examples of that?

¶    project - download all documentation

Partially done!
Location: TODO !!!

so:
    * facebook groups ! must have search too + get links
    * [...]

¶    DIY / "maintenance culture" Quotes

"""
Tim Aldiss That's why I leave spare wire coat hangers in my cupboard. Noisy whilst in the cupboard but have been known to hold an exhaust together on a drive all the way from southern Spain to Greece
Michael Holm Big can of beans and some gear clamps too
"""

The ignition works off a Lucas key so the truck starts fine <------- ???

¶    idea - roof upgrade

* Legal possibility to change / upgrade roof?
* Add racks !
* Add solar panels
* [...]

¶    TODO - Digitize Trucko documents

Todo:
    * scan
    * make historic time + expenses view
    * [...]

( if they weren't fucked by the rain :-/ )