protocol:
QUARANTINE
< DRAFT++ >
The policy we adopted is quite strict/cautious & based on information below.
Revisions:
202009xx - start
20200926
20201009 quick overview ?
20201025 ping →PD
Ties to:
* 🔗pandemic
* 🔗newcomers ### link up !!!
* 🔗protocol-aux
* [...]
Table of Contents
¶* Precautions during travel
* wear FFP2+ and eye protection before-during-after flight
keep the best mask you can get for the in-plane situation!
* standard distancing:
don't talk to people without wearing a mask
in case of not enough social distance onboard, move to another seat or try convincing your neighbours to do so
(like in case your sitting at window seat,... )
* standard hygiene:
* wash your hands whenever you tough something
* don't touch you face
* [...]
* wear FFP2+ and eye protection before-during-after flight
keep the best mask you can get for the in-plane situation!
* standard distancing:
don't talk to people without wearing a mask
in case of not enough social distance onboard, move to another seat or try convincing your neighbours to do so
(like in case your sitting at window seat,... )
* standard hygiene:
* wash your hands whenever you tough something
* don't touch you face
* [...]
¶A) Aux camp
→ 🔗protocol-aux
### check !!!!!!
"""
When L came back, we put her in an auxiliary tent for 10 days:
(from memory, 5-7→50%, 10→80% 14→90% asymptomatic coverage).
We got her:
* a tent, etc
* a power socket to plug in
* an e-reader
* a bi-daily food drop off
* a showel
Offer is open, and extends to you as well. :))
"""
→ 🔗protocol-aux
### check !!!!!!
"""
When L came back, we put her in an auxiliary tent for 10 days:
(from memory, 5-7→50%, 10→80% 14→90% asymptomatic coverage).
We got her:
* a tent, etc
* a power socket to plug in
* an e-reader
* a bi-daily food drop off
* a showel
Offer is open, and extends to you as well. :))
"""
¶C) quarantine outside CHT
get an external (tourist) accommodation for the time being...
"""
BUT, how do we ensure that Newcomer X does not spend time partying and rubbing with everybody on the island, especially the international tourist bunch?
we would need extra considerations for this - maybe already now, probably definitely soon/later (when Fuerte also has a darker epidemiological picture).
"""
get an external (tourist) accommodation for the time being...
"""
BUT, how do we ensure that Newcomer X does not spend time partying and rubbing with everybody on the island, especially the international tourist bunch?
we would need extra considerations for this - maybe already now, probably definitely soon/later (when Fuerte also has a darker epidemiological picture).
"""
¶[!] BASIC DISTANCING
:
* always wear mask
* never talk in direction of non-quarantine people
* keep 1m distance
https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/information/physical-distancing
* position yourself downwind from others
###
full proofing:
* how to maintain distance with people who don't ge it
* how to asses a catastrophic fail + go into self-isolation
:
* always wear mask
* never talk in direction of non-quarantine people
* keep 1m distance
https://www.who.int/westernpacific/emergencies/covid-19/information/physical-distancing
* position yourself downwind from others
###
full proofing:
* how to maintain distance with people who don't ge it
* how to asses a catastrophic fail + go into self-isolation
¶[+] the camp is a bubble
we should be able to
talk, swim, meet, drink a beer!
especially for newcomers this would be a very weird intro into cht
we should be able to
talk, swim, meet, drink a beer!
¶[-] no restaurants
because:
we prefer to keep our money
we cook well → https://totalism.org/david-restauran
they're unreliable - cannot evade the pull of culture (stepped inside one the other day to buy bread - 5 people without a mask at bar, also people in kitchen. i dont see a need for it.)
because:
we prefer to keep our money
we cook well → https://totalism.org/david-restauran
they're unreliable - cannot evade the pull of culture (stepped inside one the other day to buy bread - 5 people without a mask at bar, also people in kitchen. i dont see a need for it.)
¶[-] no general partying in tourist areas
because nobody wears masks, they're not quarantining, and "they're coughing because they smoke"
because nobody wears masks, they're not quarantining, and "they're coughing because they smoke"
¶[!] shopping
we do shopping every fortnight
with ffp2/ffp3
but mostly order food & general shopping
→ 🔗food (review - would you miss anything?)
we do shopping every fortnight
with ffp2/ffp3
but mostly order food & general shopping
→ 🔗food (review - would you miss anything?)
¶[?] going to a bar and having a beer outside
if it's open air
and ??? some common sense sanity check is enforced:
including "the situation went out of bounds" checks
then ... could be ok?
for people with good judgement
if it's open air
and ??? some common sense sanity check is enforced:
including "the situation went out of bounds" checks
then ... could be ok?
for people with good judgement
¶[!] meetings and hanging out
* some sort of a sense
* basic precautions (ffp masked, distanced, hand-alcoholized)
* some sort of a sense
* basic precautions (ffp masked, distanced, hand-alcoholized)
¶[?] regular neighbours
these are the people that you meet all the time, and it's difficult to impose a new culture
they will always invite you close
but important nontheless.
###
current CHT contacts:
* getting water from pilar
* bread from nani & santi
* home visits @ yeray
these are the people that you meet all the time, and it's difficult to impose a new culture
they will always invite you close
but important nontheless.
###
current CHT contacts:
* getting water from pilar
* bread from nani & santi
* home visits @ yeray
¶[!!] How safe is air travel?
TLDR:
??? ###
_________________
"""
According to experts, the risk of catching the coronavirus on a plane is relatively low if the airline is following the procedures laid out by public health experts: enforcing mask compliance, spacing out available seats and screening for sick passengers.
“If you look at the science across all diseases, you see few outbreaks” on planes, Allen said. “It’s not the hotbed of infectivity that people think it is.”
"""
https://khn.org/news/what-is-the-risk-of-getting-coronavirus-on-a-plane/
____________
"""
when an infected couple flew from China to Canada on 22 January, none of the other 350 passengers on the 15-hour flight were infected. Masks were worn.
(...)
Many airports check people’s temperatures before they board, and airlines now disinfect planes between flights and require passengers to wear masks. The air on planes is also replaced every 3 to 5 minutes, and the air that is recirculated goes through HEPA filters that should remove almost all droplets containing viruses.
“The ventilation systems on planes are very effective in reducing the overall concentration of any airborne pathogen exhaled by passengers,” says Tang. The main risk may be face-to-face conversations where air can be exchanged before being pulled away – along with any conversations before or after the flight.
"""
"""
In the US, the risk of infection is about 1 in 4000 if a flight is full, estimates Arnold Barnett at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. If the middle seats are left empty, the risk falls to 1 in 8000.
For the UK, the equivalent risks are about 10 times lower, says Barnett. That is, there is just a 1 in 40,000 chance of infection. These are just rough estimates based on many assumptions, however.
"""
Both via https://www.newscientist.com/article/2252152-how-likely-are-you-to-be-infected-by-the-coronavirus-on-a-flight/
TLDR:
??? ###
_________________
"""
According to experts, the risk of catching the coronavirus on a plane is relatively low if the airline is following the procedures laid out by public health experts: enforcing mask compliance, spacing out available seats and screening for sick passengers.
“If you look at the science across all diseases, you see few outbreaks” on planes, Allen said. “It’s not the hotbed of infectivity that people think it is.”
"""
https://khn.org/news/what-is-the-risk-of-getting-coronavirus-on-a-plane/
____________
"""
when an infected couple flew from China to Canada on 22 January, none of the other 350 passengers on the 15-hour flight were infected. Masks were worn.
(...)
Many airports check people’s temperatures before they board, and airlines now disinfect planes between flights and require passengers to wear masks. The air on planes is also replaced every 3 to 5 minutes, and the air that is recirculated goes through HEPA filters that should remove almost all droplets containing viruses.
“The ventilation systems on planes are very effective in reducing the overall concentration of any airborne pathogen exhaled by passengers,” says Tang. The main risk may be face-to-face conversations where air can be exchanged before being pulled away – along with any conversations before or after the flight.
"""
"""
In the US, the risk of infection is about 1 in 4000 if a flight is full, estimates Arnold Barnett at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. If the middle seats are left empty, the risk falls to 1 in 8000.
For the UK, the equivalent risks are about 10 times lower, says Barnett. That is, there is just a 1 in 40,000 chance of infection. These are just rough estimates based on many assumptions, however.
"""
Both via https://www.newscientist.com/article/2252152-how-likely-are-you-to-be-infected-by-the-coronavirus-on-a-flight/
¶ A) FUCK IT: We don't need extra quarantine
option might be unavailable, if there is a legal requirement to quarantine
option might be unavailable, if there is a legal requirement to quarantine
¶On quarantine timing
Basically:
( per https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_3 )
* On average it takes 5–6 days from when someone is infected with the virus for symptoms to show.
* however it can take up to 14 days
Basically:
( per https://www.who.int/health-topics/coronavirus#tab=tab_3 )
* On average it takes 5–6 days from when someone is infected with the virus for symptoms to show.
* however it can take up to 14 days
¶ * 2 week quarantine == default, 90% certainty
(separate camp)
Cache left for pickup.
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From a scientific point of view, 96% of infected people can be identified during a 14-day quarantine. “In principle, this is still the quarantine duration recommended by international organisations such as the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the European CDC,” Van Gucht said.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/132830/how-belgiums-new-quarantine-rules-work/
(separate camp)
Cache left for pickup.
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From a scientific point of view, 96% of infected people can be identified during a 14-day quarantine. “In principle, this is still the quarantine duration recommended by international organisations such as the World Health Organisation (WHO) and the European CDC,” Van Gucht said.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/132830/how-belgiums-new-quarantine-rules-work/
¶ * 10 days quarenting == 70% certainty
With a 10-day quarantine, 90% of infected people can still be identified
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/132830/how-belgiums-new-quarantine-rules-work/
With a 10-day quarantine, 90% of infected people can still be identified
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/132830/how-belgiums-new-quarantine-rules-work/
¶ * 5 - 7 day quarentaine == 50% certainty
“For a 7-day quarantine, we have to calculate that 50% of the people still have to develop the disease,” he said, adding that for half of infected people, symptoms occur somewhere between day 5 and 7 after contact.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/132830/how-belgiums-new-quarantine-rules-work/
“For a 7-day quarantine, we have to calculate that 50% of the people still have to develop the disease,” he said, adding that for half of infected people, symptoms occur somewhere between day 5 and 7 after contact.
https://www.brusselstimes.com/news/belgium-all-news/132830/how-belgiums-new-quarantine-rules-work/