Mobile (phone)

¶101— Attributes ("What I Want")

:
    * rugged (display should not break etc):
        BUT: "Although Samsung fans looking for a rugged smartphone could simply get a flagship and slap some tough case onto it..."

    * good camera

    * budget (~250€)

    * Android versions + upgrades:
        12 (2021)
        11 (2020)
        "Q" 10 (2019)
        pie 9  (2018):
            * "Android Dashboard" with TIME LIMIT per app!
        oreo 8 (2017)
        nougat 7
        marshmallow 6
        ###
        (xcover 3 = android 4 / android 5)
        ----------------------------
        Comparison:
            http://socialcompare.com/en/comparison/android-versions-comparison

    * size:
        xcover3 = 4.5"
        xcover4 = 5"
        p30 = 6.1"
        mate p20 pro = 6.4"
        p30 pro = 6.5"
        [...]

    * water-proof

    * software not full of shit

    * to root ??

    * to buy new ??

    * use a case ??

    * dual sim ??

    * [...]

¶(GENERAL BUYING GUIDES)


https://www.mbreviews.com/toughest-smartphones/#show9 !!


_____ DATED

https://siol.net/digisvet/nasveti/top-10-najboljsi-vodoodporni-pametni-telefoni-444616

https://www.monitor.si/clanek/kateri-telefon-kupiti-leta-2019/189297/
"samsung s9 has a good camera"

https://www.racunalniske-novice.com/novice/dogodki-in-obvestila/najboljsi-kitajski-pametni-telefoni-leta-2018.html
china phones

¶PHONE/TOUGH— Galaxy Xcover 3 (2015)

D had for a while. Quite rugged.
Kind of slow and sucky and shit camera.
Running Android 6.0.1

¶PHONE/TOUGH— CAT S61 (tough + infrared, 2016)

* INDOOR AIR QUALITY MONITOR:
    "as well as solvents or other type of pollutants" !!!
* HD thermal camera !!
* can be submerged !
* laser measurer
BUT ~ 800€ ....
-------------
alt: s60, s30, s41

¶PHONE/TOUGH— Galaxy Xcover 4 (tough, 2017)

http://www.bolha.com/telefonija/mobilna-telefonija/pametni-mobilni-telefoni/samsung/samsung-galaxy-xcover-4-lte-16gb-sm-g390f-crna-1319817630.html?aclct=1558047970&kw=samsung+galaxy+xcover+4
201905: 180€ new
Android 8 since 201808

¶PHONES (2019)

* Samsung Galaxy S9
S9+ = 450€

* Samsung S8 Active

* Galaxy A3 (2017)
"cheap amongst better phones"

* LG X Venture Rugged
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073SN7GMM/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B073SN7GMM&linkCode=as2&tag=mbr08-20&linkId=309e38149da6ba387138e228f9cd4146

* AGM X3 rugged smartphone

* Doogee S90 / S90 SUPER
350€

* Blackview BV9500

* Kyocera DuraXV / Dura Pro

* Pixel phones

* Sonim XP8, XP7

* OnePlus older version ?

* Nokias ?

* Huawei P20 lite
zgleda default za 350€

* Homtom ht20 (2017)
https://www.techradar.com/reviews/homtom-ht20

* [...]

¶LIST/TOUGH— 2020/05 update

* ulefone armor x5 90€
https://nl.banggood.com/Ulefone-Armor-X5-5_5-Inch-NFC-IP68-IP69K-Waterproof-3GB-32GB-5000mAh-MT6762-Octa-core-4G-Smartphone-p-1579916.html?akmClientCountry=FR&gpla=1&gmcCountry=BE&currency=EUR&createTmp=1&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=cpc_bgcs&utm_content=xibei&utm_campaign=xibei-ssc-beg-nl-all-newcustom-ncv63-1119&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIme-kkay86QIVcWHmCh3B8AB8EAQYBCABEgJjsPD_BwE&ID=5133446246444&cur_warehouse=HK

* doogee s90c 185€ (banggood)
* doogee s60 lite 120€
* samsung galaxy xcover 4s 230€:
* samsung Galaxy XCover Pro 490€
* s40 80€
* s60 250€
* s95 pro 350€

shops:
    https://coolblue.be
    banggood !!!

* Crosscall Trekker M1 130€ ... A6

* galaxy xcover 4s https://www.coolblue.be/nl/product/834036/samsung-galaxy-xcover-4s-zwart.html?cmt=c_a%2Ccid_8783357480%2Caid_93880339172%2Ctid_pla-342141448749%2Cgn_g%2Cd_c&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt6eptqy86QIVC7h3Ch38ZAjZEAQYAiABEgLoPPD_BwE

https://www.mediamarkt.be/nl/product/_archos-smartphone-saphir-50x-16-gb-zwart-503589-1743674.html?rbtc=||||p||&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIt6eptqy86QIVC7h3Ch38ZAjZEAQYBSABEgL4VfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
100€

¶LIST— 2023/10 <L

* Xiaomi 13, with Leica lense // CN version for europ as cheap option?
    Xiaomi Mi 13 @Leuven 500 euro
    https://www.2dehands.be/v/telecommunicatie/mobiele-telefoons-overige-merken/m2009265115-xiaomi-mi-13
      --> https://xiaomi.eu/community/threads/flash-xiaomi-13-global-rom-on-chinese-version.69767/

* Xiaomi 13, with Leica lense // GLOBAL version for europ as cheap option?
    550 ###

* Xiaomi 12 or 12T, with lesser quality camera

* got a Huawei 13 PRO at cash converters in Sint-Gilles
    230euro + 1y warranty
    20231020

¶TIP— never take a phone to bed

leave it outside and have a sensible ring policy

DO NOT GO TO SLEEP WITH IT
... read a book
DO NOT WAKE UP WITH IT
... get up and do stuff

¶TIP— liberating + jailbreaking

[!!**] (2022)
* what to do???
* what is the current updates of these things?
* what are experts i know using?
* what are side dangers?

_______

https://fsfe.org/activities/android/ (2022)

* cyanogenmod -> lineageos
* replicant ?
* [...]

¶TIP— regular phone cleaning

???

¶TIP— collect old phones from friends?
###awk

NO - camera is bad, won't be ok for for documentation
YES - maybe somebody else can use them?

¶TIP— repair and maintain broken screens?

[!!]
YES !

¶TIP— buy used phones

2021: ~100€ you can get amazing devices that lack nothing

¶[!!] SOFTWARE/WORKFLOW— Looking for ...
:
    * calendar ?
    * image editing + GIFs (instagram style)
    * [...]

¶[!**o] SOFTWARE/WORKFLOW/Q— How to pack software together into "packs" or even "distributions"?
ties to #DISTRO #DISTRO.mobile

¶POSTANDROID— ANDROID ALTERNATIVES

via:
    * https://itsfoss.com/open-source-alternatives-android/
    * [...]

_______________________

* pinephone:
    also on 🔗real-hacks

* kai OS

* tizen
"""Tizen is an open source, Linux based mobile operating system which is often dubbed as official Linux mobile OS for the reason that the project is supported by the Linux Foundation. """

* sailfish ??
NOT OPENSOURCE !

* postmarket OS (pmOS) 
WOW! :D
"""
idea is to provide 10-year life cycle to smartphones. You probably already know that after a few years, Android or iOS stop providing updates for older smartphones
"""
#toemail !!!!!!

* [...]

¶POSTANDROID— CONDITIONS / PROBLEMS

Problems as of 2021/08:
    * bank app
    * tinder
    * the popular chat (=Whatsapp/Telegram)
    * ###

¶REVIEW— LG k9 (2020-2022)

2gb RAM, 16gb storage
android 7.1.2 (nougat)
8MP

Went really slow after a while ...

¶[!] MATRIX/GRAP— Flowchart: choosing a device !

WHERE IS THIS?
TO CHOOSE PRODUCTS AS FLOWCHARTS ???
#ordering #postmarket

¶[!!*] OS— How about non-Androids? Ubuntu phones / Linux on Mobile

https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2020/04/pinephone-ubuntu-touch-edition
community work, based on 16.04
pinephone ... 150€

most things work !
(not camera)

¶shops

banggood

bol.com

¶[p/] REVIEW— Asus Zenphone 2 Laser (2016) seemed ok, but ...

david got one 2016-10, but then:
    * touchscreen is making random presses after a few months
    * bloatware sucks
    * Linux support for MTP is annoying

¶[!!**] MERGE— Merge ^CHT🔗v1-workfow-android
for more software

¶[!] ANDROID— Spacemaking on android (with USB debugging+ADB)
(via "+++ mobile")

0) common folders to clean
$ /storage/self/primary/Android/data/com.tencent.mm/MicroMsg/xlog

1) plain "du"
du -sh *

2) ADB SORT BY SIZE (+scale)

cd /storage/self/primary
echo "k..M..G.." ; du -d 1 -H . 2> /dev/null | sort -r -n

(same as?)
echo "k..M..G.." ; du -s * | sort -nr

¶(L:) [¶] ANDROID/UI— Navbar at bottom of phone

Enable in settings, look for "nav" 

¶[m!] FEATURE— eSIM is quite useful

(Easy to get a MVNO in a new country)!




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rugged phones