hackerspaces.org @ 35C3
(2019/08)
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Revisions:
20190824 1606 writing
20190824 1707 common overview
20190828 overview <david
Ctrl+F for "!!!" for todos!
¶¶ (aimee: big census presentation)
"it's very time consuming"
got ~25% done
end might happen before end of year :)
you get interesting answers:
* "person left, don't have login to our site"
* wiki problems
* user problem: people don't know that anyone can sign up and edit
"it's very time consuming"
got ~25% done
end might happen before end of year :)
you get interesting answers:
* "person left, don't have login to our site"
* wiki problems
* user problem: people don't know that anyone can sign up and edit
¶idea: we could support, as delegates, to do something about "dead spaces"
(so, to deal with census "status reports")
(so, to deal with census "status reports")
¶¶ (site status overview) / sysadmin
g5pw: "pretty sure mediawiki account activations are solved"
sva: blacklists are problematic (site was not reachable in India) .... but seems solved!
a: "seems most login problems are user problems"
sva: mediawiki often doesnt work well with emails
let's test that!!!
g5pw: "pretty sure mediawiki account activations are solved"
sva: blacklists are problematic (site was not reachable in India) .... but seems solved!
a: "seems most login problems are user problems"
sva: mediawiki often doesnt work well with emails
let's test that!!!
¶ (improving the site)
d: let's have a semaphore about what's going on !!!
g: "we don't really have an avenue for people signalling us problems" !!!
a: let's make an FAQ for the site:
login
creating account
etc
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put it on the index site !!!
what's going on with the mailing list ???
-> seems to work now finally.
sva: the question is whether this is:
A) community-maintaned ... so to defer all to common channels ...
B) have a "entry address" ... in this case be vary of creating an "insider group"
a: could call it "community support" ?
!!!
change "login troubles" link to our own page (not external)
+jomat is here :)
* Check FAQ for login issues !!!
* Check mailing lists/contact info @g5pw - "general inquiry"
* Make link "Login troubles" to own page !!!
d: let's have a semaphore about what's going on !!!
g: "we don't really have an avenue for people signalling us problems" !!!
a: let's make an FAQ for the site:
login
creating account
etc
----------
put it on the index site !!!
what's going on with the mailing list ???
-> seems to work now finally.
sva: the question is whether this is:
A) community-maintaned ... so to defer all to common channels ...
B) have a "entry address" ... in this case be vary of creating an "insider group"
a: could call it "community support" ?
!!!
change "login troubles" link to our own page (not external)
+jomat is here :)
* Check FAQ for login issues !!!
* Check mailing lists/contact info @g5pw - "general inquiry"
* Make link "Login troubles" to own page !!!
¶ idea to make a "geekend" (hackathon) to do work for the page.
sva:
ccc could cover some of the costs
we already looked for places
(??? link please >sva)
sva:
ccc could cover some of the costs
we already looked for places
(??? link please >sva)
¶ ccc might try to take over hackerspaces.org
"anky" (or "ankie" or? ... tovo?) has the domain
if that happens:
* writing a statutes/chater would be good
* sanity check: could CCC influence future charters, decisions about new subdomains, etc
"anky" (or "ankie" or? ... tovo?) has the domain
if that happens:
* writing a statutes/chater would be good
* sanity check: could CCC influence future charters, decisions about new subdomains, etc
¶g: "what should we do with the site"?
"there was a spaceapi meetup yesterday"
https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Session:SpaceAPI_Meetup
a: "we killed a taiwan hotel that added itself to the list"
g: "let's work on the software page" ... want more "how to hackerspace" contents
"there was a spaceapi meetup yesterday"
https://events.ccc.de/camp/2019/wiki/Session:SpaceAPI_Meetup
a: "we killed a taiwan hotel that added itself to the list"
g: "let's work on the software page" ... want more "how to hackerspace" contents
¶ d: what are some hs.org stories? what is it good for?
#SYSTEMATICS
d:
what is the site good for? isn't it a bit boring actually?
there's no more call ins or something that would seem exciting / interactive
answers:
* d:
going to places, it's cool to see the spaces there
* sva:
general world scene overview is a cool part
"in indonesia it seems really cool"
* [...] !!!
#dev
map issues are still there
sva: somebody wanted to do something about it at easterhegg???
----------
>g
think it's mostly done ???
#SYSTEMATICS
d:
what is the site good for? isn't it a bit boring actually?
there's no more call ins or something that would seem exciting / interactive
answers:
* d:
going to places, it's cool to see the spaces there
* sva:
general world scene overview is a cool part
"in indonesia it seems really cool"
* [...] !!!
#dev
map issues are still there
sva: somebody wanted to do something about it at easterhegg???
----------
>g
think it's mostly done ???
¶(forming wiki schema = preparing for the next census)
list:
organisational models
financial stories
etc
"our own ethnographic model"
list:
organisational models
financial stories
etc
"our own ethnographic model"
¶(policy about subdomaining)
"free reign" - if you want to do it, do it
!!! we have to rethink this
------------
>g : give me pad.hackerspaces.org though
+realitygaps
"free reign" - if you want to do it, do it
!!! we have to rethink this
------------
>g : give me pad.hackerspaces.org though
+realitygaps
¶("controversial" idea: use spaceapi for the map!)
so: do we want to, perhaps long-term, merge the projects ???
g: this would solve map issues
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g: would need to cross-check with current list
might try this !!!
do: have a static version of json externally generated to have space.api map
spaceapi has 3 months open meeting ... mostly orga guys come
let's try this
so: do we want to, perhaps long-term, merge the projects ???
g: this would solve map issues
----------
g: would need to cross-check with current list
might try this !!!
do: have a static version of json externally generated to have space.api map
spaceapi has 3 months open meeting ... mostly orga guys come
let's try this
¶(mission statement)
so, we want to support:
* documentation of existing spaces
* the incubation of new spaces
* [...]
unique challenges (and metrics)
so, we want to support:
* documentation of existing spaces
* the incubation of new spaces
* [...]
unique challenges (and metrics)
¶(lack of content on difference between types)
(hackerspace vs makerspace vs ...)
sva: stamping system:
people can "stamp" content/spaces
= give their opinions about what it is
at the moment you can only select one space type
>g change this !!! (to multi-select possibility)
(hackerspace vs makerspace vs ...)
sva: stamping system:
people can "stamp" content/spaces
= give their opinions about what it is
at the moment you can only select one space type
>g change this !!! (to multi-select possibility)
¶(g : should we integrate with spaceapi?)
g "provocative questions":
should we delegate, "outsource" the list to spaceapi?
should we integrate this two lists? (and drop our own, eventually?)
a: have better template support
d: yes, shape a "questionnaire" together
g: let's render the page name to appear more on top!
good at rendering calendars !
tim @spaceapi channel
g "provocative questions":
should we delegate, "outsource" the list to spaceapi?
should we integrate this two lists? (and drop our own, eventually?)
a: have better template support
d: yes, shape a "questionnaire" together
g: let's render the page name to appear more on top!
good at rendering calendars !
tim @spaceapi channel
¶(end of meeting: participants overview the pad)
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